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  • Nightwish âûãíàëè Òàðüþ

    Òóîìàñ ñîòîâàðèùè âûãíàëè èç ãðóïïû Òàðüþ. Âîò èõ îòêðûòîå ïèñüìî ñ îô.ñàéòà:
    Dear Tarja,
    It`s time to choose whether the story of Nightwish ends here or whether it will still continue an undetermined period of time. We`ve been working with this creation for 9 years and we are not ready to give up yet. Nightwish is a way of life, something to live for, and we`re certain we can`t let it go.

    Equally certain is the fact that we cannot go on with you and Marcelo any longer. During the last year something sad happened, which I`ve been going over in my head every single day, morning and night. Your attitude and behavior don`t go with Nightwish anymore. There are characteristics I would never have believed to see in my old dear friend.
    People who don`t talk with each other for a year do not belong in the same band.

    We are involved in an industry where the business-side of things is a necessary evil and something to worry about all the time. We are also a band which has always done music from the heart, because of friendship and the music itself. The mental satisfaction should always be more important than money! Nightwish is a band, it`s an emotion.
    To you, unfortunately, business, money, and things that have nothing to do with those emotions have become much more important. You feel that you have sacrificed yourself and your musical career for Nightwish, rather than thinking what it has given to you.
    This attitude was clearly shown to me in the two things you said to me in an airplane in Toronto: ”I don`t need Nightwish anymore.” and ”Remember, Tuomas, that I could leave this band at any time, giving you only one day`s warning in advance”.
    I can`t simply write any more songs for you to sing.

    You have said yourself that you are merely a ”guest musician” in Nightwish. Now that visit ends and we will continue Nightwish with a new female vocalist.
    We`re sure this is an equally big relief to you as it is for us. We have all been feeling bad long enough.

    You told us that no matter what, the next Nightwish album will be your last one. However, the rest of us want to continue as long as the fire burns. So there`s no sense in doing that next album with you, either.
    The four of us have been going over this situation countless times and we have realized that this is the thing we want to do in life. It´s all we can do. In December 2004, in Germany, you said that you will never tour again for more than two weeks at a time. You also said that we can forget about U.S. and Australia because the fees and the sizes of venues are too small.

    In interviews I`ve mentioned that if Tarja leaves, that would be the end of the band. I understand that people will think this way. Nightwish is, however, a scenery of my soul and I`m not ready to let go because of one person. A person who wants to focus her creativity to somewhere else, a person whose values don`t match mine.

    We were never bothered by the fact that you didn`t participate in writing/arranging songs, you never in 9 years came to rehearse the songs with us before going to the studio. Not the fact that while on tour you always wanted to fly, separately from us with your husband. Not the fact that you are an undisputable front image of the band.
    We accepted and felt ok about everything except greed, underestimating the fans, and breaking promises. It was agreed by the five of us that Nightwish would be the priority in everything that we do during 2004-2005. Still so many things were more important to you. The ultimate example being the already sold-out show in Oslo, which you wanted to cancel because you needed to rehearse for your solo concerts, meet frieds and go to the movies. Those were the words Marcelo used in an e-mail explaining the cancellation. This being just one example of so many. I couldn`t think of a worse way of being selfish and dismissing our fans.

    Nightwish is a way of life and a job with many obligations. To each other and to the fans. With you we can`t take care of those duties anymore.

    Deep within we don`t know which one of you drove us to this point. Somehow Marcelo has changed you from the lovely girl you were into a diva, who doesn`t think or act the way she used to. You are too sure of your irreplaceableness and status.

    It`s obvious that you blame your stress and misery on us four. And you think we don`t respect or listen to you. Belive us; We have always had the uppermost respect towards you as a wonderful vocalist and as a friend. And very often during the past couple of years the plans were made according to your decisions only. You were always the only one who wanted more money from the shows.
    This ”compensation and more money from everything” –attitude is the fact that we are most disappointed of!

    We wish that from now on you will listen to your heart instead of Marcelo. Cultural differences combined with greed, opportunism and love is a dangerous combination. Do not wither yourself.

    This decision is not something we are especially proud of but you gave us no choice. The gap between us is too wide. And the decision is made by us four unanimously. We are beyond the point where things could be settled by talking.

    All the best for your life and career,

    Tuomas


    Emppu Jukka Marco


    Ps. This is an open letter for everybody.
    Òóò ðóññêèé ïåðåâîä http://www.nightwish.com.ru/news.htm

  • #2
    Âåñü ìèð ñêîðáèò è ïîìíèò
    Chuck Norris can fail, but not Maiden (c) Youtube

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    • #3
      Äóìàþ, ÷òî ýòî êîíåö Íàéòâèøà. Õîòÿ ìíå â îáùåì-òî íà ýòî íàïëåâàòü...

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      • #4
        Êàðÿ÷èéå ôèíñêèéå ïàðíè æãóòú!

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        • #5
          Äà-à.
          À ñîáèðàòü ÿ ÷òî áóäó, ìàðêè? :(
          Íà ñàìîì äåëå ãðóñòíî.
          Ìóæ-ëàòèíîñ, ôàêòè÷åñêè õåð ñ ãîðû, íàñòðîèë àáñ. áåçâîëüíóþ Òàðüþ íà ñâîé îáðàç ìûñëåé. Äàòü áû åìó â áóáåí. Éîêî Îíî áëèí ñ áîëòîì.
          Последний раз редактировалось Andre; 24-10-2005, 10:14.

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          • #6
            Áåç Òàðüêè íàéòâèøü ïðåâðàòèòñÿ â î÷åðåäíóþ áåçëèêóþ ïàâåð-êîìàíäó, õîòÿ ïîñëåäíèé àëüáîì è ñ íåé óæå ïîêàçûâàåò ýòè òåíäåíöèè...òàê øî ÿ äóìàþ ýòî áîëüøå ïîõîæå íà òî, øòî Òàðüÿ ñêàçàëà íàéòâèøó: "èäèòå âû âñå íà...íàààà Õ@É" (ñ) Øóðà Êàðåòíûé

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            • #7
              ×å òâîðèòñÿ, ÷å òâîðèòñÿ...
              "êàê òû ñëóøàåøü ýòî ãîâíî, êîãäà åñòü Piece of Mind" (ñ) Mr.Breeg

              Õðîíèêè ïîçèòèâíîé ðåìîðàëèçàöèè

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              • #8
                /ïîæèìàÿ ïëå÷àìè/ íèêîãäà îñîáåííî íå íðàâèëñÿ Íàéòâèø, íî òî, ÷òî Òàðüÿ áûëà î÷åíü âåñîìûì ïëþñîì â ýòîé ãðóïïå - ôàêò.

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                • #9
                  Íó âîò è âñ¸... 3.14çäåö Íàéòâèøó. Äàæå åñëè Òóîìàñ è íàéä¸ò õîðîøèé æåíñêèé "(áóäåò êàê "Àðèÿ áåç Êèïåëîâà")
                  P.S: Òàê ÿ è íå äîæäàëñÿ èõ êîíöåðòà â Ðîññèè(((
                  Àëêîãîëü â ìàëûõ äîçàõ ïîëåçåí â ëþáûõ êîëè÷åñòâàõ

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                  • #10
                    Õå-õå, ïóñòü òåïåðü ïðèãîòîâÿòñÿ ñìààòàòü â 2006-îì óäî÷êè, è óæå ïîðà ïîäèñêèâàòü âàêàíñèè â äðóãèõ ãðóïïàõ. ))

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                    • #11
                      Åñòü ó ìåíÿ ñèëüíîå ïîäîçðåíèå, ÷òî êàíäèäàòóðà íà çàìåíó ó Òóîìàñà óæå åñòü.  êîíöå êîíöîâ, ñíà÷àëà âûãíàòü âîêàëèñòêó, à ïîòîì ðàñïèñàòüñÿ â íåñïîñîáíîñòè íàéòè çàìåíó... Íå, âîçìîæíî, íî äëÿ ýòîãî íàäî áûòü íå çíàþ óæ êåì.

                      Çàìåíèòü Òàðüþ - îñîáûõ òðóäîâ Òóîìàñó ñîñòàâèòü íå äîëæíî. Õîðîøî ïîñòàâëåííûõ àêàäåìè÷åñêèõ âîêàëîâ êîíñåðâàòîðèè âûïóñêàþò áîëåå ÷åì äîñòàòî÷íî. Îñòàëîñü íàéòè òó äåâóøêó, êîòîðàÿ ñîáñòâåííî ñîãëàñèòñÿ ïåòü ïàâåð. ×òî, äóìàåòå, Mission Impossible? Äà íè ðàçó!

                      Ýòî âàì íå Äèêèíñîíà èëè Õýëôîðäà ìåíÿòü. Òóò âñå íà ïîðÿäêè ïðîùå.

                      Âîò Òàðüå áóäåò òðóäíîâàòî. Èáî â íàïèñàíèè ìóçûêè ó íåå áîëüøèå ïðîáëåìû. Èëè îíà ýòè òàëàíòû òùàòåëüíî ñêðûâàåò.

                      À âîîáùå, â ïîðÿäêå áðåäà - ïðèãëàñèëè áû Íàéòâèøåâöû Ðèïïåðà ê ñåáå :-)

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                      • #12
                        Àíãåë Ðèïïåðà!
                        Chuck Norris can fail, but not Maiden (c) Youtube

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                        • #13
                          ×ðåò, ó äóðàêîâ ìûñëè ñõîäèòñÿ :) ß òîæå ïîäóìàä ïðî Ðèïïåðà âìåñòî Òàðüè :)

                          À ê Åðøàì Áëåéçà îòïðàâèòü.
                          Rock this church

                          They cry for better manners
                          They tell us be polite
                          They tell us get our hair cut
                          Don't they know they are asking for a fight
                          They tell us it's immoral
                          They tell us it's a sin
                          We get all our pleasures
                          From the trouble that we get in

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                          • #14
                            Òàðüÿ - Îççè Îñáîðí â þïêå...

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                            • #15
                              Сообщение от Germanicus
                              À ê Åðøàì Áëåéçà îòïðàâèòü.
                              Íî íî, Áëýéçà íå òðîãàòü. Ïóñòü ñèäèò òàì ãäå ñèäèò.
                              Прослушанное с 15 апреля 2005 года

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